Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree
Summary
Elden Ring : Shadow of the Erdtreemakes the already tangled family Sir Herbert Beerbohm Tree of the graven image and demigods even more puzzling with the addition of Messmer , and the confirmation that Melina is also among Marika ’s children . However , the only pieces of selective information that are concrete are that Messmer and Melina are Marika ’s children , but the amount of escape details means that it ’s difficult to place their births in the game ’s timeline . As such , actor have been dissect the available information and the esthetic of each character to find answers to the questions raised by the DLC .
It turns out that the question of when Messmer was born is n’t the only mystery story left unreciprocated inShadow of the Erdtree . The identity of his Father of the Church is also unclear , but several theories have bug out up , and all seem equally plausible count the scarce evidence to support any single option . give that Messmer seems to have two curses – his flames and the snake – he ’s singular even among the demigod tyke . However , some possibility advise that the flame are a result of his pedigree rather than a direct curse . But that ’s only one of many possibility that revolve around Messmer , and it ’s fourth dimension to take a penny-pinching look at each one .
Elden Ring ’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC is a victory overlap for FromSoftware , bring in elements from preceding games without losing what made it exceptional .
Radagon Could Be Messmer’s Father
The Most Popular Theory
This is not only the most popular theory , it might also have the most grounds to indorse it , as picayune as that still is . It relies on Radagon being the lord needed to avail Marika ascend to godhood the elbow room that Radahn was needed for Miquella . Then , the mesmerism is that Marika and Radagon had Messmer and Melina before she was with Godfrey , placing them first in the demigod birth order . Overall , this theory lines up fairly well with the timeline , specially when it ’s mentioned that Radahn watch Messmer as an previous brother , so it ’s at least known that Messmer is previous than Radahn .
Elden Ring : Shadow of the Erdtree sum a massive amount of traditional knowledge that changes beliefs about many characters , and these are the large revelations .
Aside from the naming conventions matching , as all the baby born to Marika have names that start with " M , " Messmer ’s crimson tomentum that is reminiscent of Radagon ’s is also used as evidence to support him being the Church Father . However , that ’s not the strongest piece of evidence to indicate Radagon might be the father of Messmer and Melina . Instead , there ’s the small-scale detail ofMessmer , Melina , Malenia , and Miquella all having butterflies connected to them , which could be a signaling that they were born of Radagon and Marika , and it ’s interesting to note that none of the other demigod tiddler are associated with butterfly in the same path .
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Being Radagon ’s Word would make Messmer a sibling to Malenia , Miquella , and likely Melina , as well as half - brother to Radahn , Ranni , Rykard , Morgott , Mohg , and Godwyn .
Messmer’s Father Might Be Related To The Frenzied Flame
Resulting In His & Melina’s Flames
While this hypothesis is a bit more unusual , there are a few point about it that make it seem rather plausible . There are two similar versions that fall under Messmer ’s dad being related to fire , so both will be talk about in this section . The first is that his dad was a fire hulk , resulting in him and Melina having uncontrollable flames . Then , the 2d is that his pop has some connective to the Frenzied Flame , for which more evidence is line up with Melina than Messmer , especially withher power to bite the Erdtree .
With the flames inside Messmer being related to his parentage rather than a nemesis , it seems to agree better with the pattern of demigod take one case of oath , rather than Messmer being the only kid to have two nemesis . Oddly enough , the only reason his ardor was n’t a big issue is because of his serpent curse , since it ate away at the flaming inside him and kept it more - or - less contained . Then , the serpent was able to be hold due to Marika intervening and seal it with her Grace . The result was he could survive with both of these vie forces in his body .
Marika is already a rather tragic figure in Elden Ring , especially as the vessel for the Elden Ring , but a new theory adds more calamity to her story .
Players venture into the shadowed realm of the Land of Shadow to confront new biomes, dungeons, and formidable bosses. Guided by the enigmatic Miquella, they face the terrifying Messmer the Impaler and uncover the dark secrets shrouded beneath the Erdtree’s influence, featuring new weapons, magic, and challenges.
However , Melina makes a stronger case for her and Messmer ’s dada having an affiliation with fervor . First , Melina does n’t have a forcible manakin , buther spirit has burn marks . This has led to surmisal that she may have had a physical body in the past times , but her born fire burn down it out since she did n’t have a serpent like Messmer to contain it . Second , the only case where the Tarnished does n’t require to sacrifice Melina to burn the Erdtree is when they side with the Frenzied Flame . This means that , as firing , Melina fire as intensely as the Frenzied Flame , and could involve a connection to it .
The Gloam-Eyed Queen Could Play A Role In Messmer’s Parentage
If She Had A Split Side Like Marika
Although it ’s a far - fetched theory , this is among the most interesting speculations about Messmer ’s forefather . The Gloam - Eyed Queen is connect with both snakes and fire , so her having a male counterpart , like Marika has Radagon , creates a jolly plausible theory that she ’s Messmer and Melina ’s founding father . This would also sum a young reasonableness why Marika sealed away Messmer and hid the existence of Messmer and Melina in the Lands Between , since theGloam - Eyed Queen was painted as her foeman , but it ’s not unusual for Marika to rewrite account in her favor .
The most important NPC for your journeying in Shadow of the Erdtree is n’t part of the DLC ’s story at all and wo n’t be found in the Land of Shadow .
Yet again , the bulk of evidence to support this estimation derive from Melina rather than Messmer , and somewhat relates to the old theory that she was the Gloam - Eyed Queen . In the Frenzied Flame ending , Melina ’s seal eye is shown to have a gloam ( darker / shaded ) colour , and she ’s focused on delivering designate Death to the Tarnished , who is now essentially a vas for the Flame . But instead of being the queen , Marika might ’ve had Messmer and Melina with her manly counterpart , then seal away the evidence by keeping Messmer in the Land of Shadow and sealing Melina ’s heart .
bring out the truth behind Messmer ’s place in theElden Ringfamily treeis difficult , and there ’s not enough info to definitely say that one choice is the right choice . As a result , an reply is unlikely to ever be revealed , since it seems like there are n’t plans for another DLC or a sequel , mean that Messmer and Melina will stay shrouded in enigma . However , the theories that have bug out up despite the small amount of evidence are intriguing , and it ’s potential that tiny item are the key to uncover Messmer ’s place in the family of demigods inElden Ring : Shadow of the Erdtree .
role player venture into the shadowed realm of the Land of Shadow to face up raw biomes , dungeon , and formidable honcho . Guided by the enigmatic Miquella , they face the terrifying Messmer the Impaler and uncover the dark secrets shrouded beneath the Erdtree ’s influence , featuring unexampled weapon system , magic , and challenges.
