Thor: Ragnarok
Spider - Man : Homecomingbroke the Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline and it expect likeThor : Ragnarokwill only make it more confusing .
For a quick refresher , Spider - Man : Homecomingwas a moderately cohesive part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe- it carefully integrate the web - slinger into a world of heroes and ripe Iron Man ’s multi - film arc - except in one key orbit . The opening sequence showing future Vulture Adrian Toomes ' felonious rise began in the aftermath ofThe Avengers ' Battle of New York then jumpstart forrader eight twelvemonth to the events of the film . However , but our understanding , the film was actually set just four years after , in the fall afterCaptain America : Civil War .
There were several explanation cater , but all ignore explicit dating in the moving picture . The adept root we could derive up with was a timeline shift , withCaptain America : The Winter Soldier , Avengers : Age of Ultron , Civil War , Homecomingand all future movie moved forrader four eld to be set in 2020 . That order , it seemed more to be an disjunct option made to the welfare ofHomecoming ’s story - either to makePeter Parker the kid in Iron Man 2or allow Toomes ' daughter to be untried enough to do a jolting drawing of the Avengers forward ofthe film ’s stunning scoundrel twist- rather than any major retcon .
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Going forward , we expect the next films to brush off this . Any issuing relates singularly toHomecomingso can be rather easily sidestep cash in one’s chips intoAvengers : Infinity War , which is presumptively set in its press release year of 2018 . unhappily , it ’s not go to be that wide-eyed .
Thor: Ragnarok’s Timeline Contradiction
DuringScreen Rant ’s visit to theThor : Ragnarokset , we found out from manufacturer Brad Winderbaumwhen the movie will be set . Here ’s what he tell :
" It ’s not like , five minutes after Ultron terminate we start this movie . It ’s a couple years later … This film takes situation basically ¦ You know , it ’s grueling . In the timeline of the MCU , things kind of befall on top of each other , particularly now in Phase Three . They ’re not as interlocked as they were in Phase One , you know , during Fury ’s Big Week and everything . So [ Thor : Ragnarok ] happens perchance on top of Civil War , on top of Spider - Man [ Homecoming ] . Somewhere in that ball park . "
There ’s a lot to unpack , but most blazing is the contradiction in its relation to other movies . This is n’t the first clip we ’ve see " two year after Ultron " be Thor 3 ’s scope ; at SDCC , Kevin Feige uncover thatHulk had been stifle Banner for two year , intend it has to be at least that long afterThe Avengerssequel ’s ending . This would identify it in 2017 , one yearafterthe conventionally accept set up forCivil WarandHomecoming : Captain America 3is sic just one twelvemonth afterAge of Ultron , itself a yr on fromThe Winter Soldier . None of these flick have explicit geological dating , but their spatial arrangement within the franchise is well-defined .
However , it ’s tell that they ignoreSpider - Man : Homecoming ’s boner too , suggesting that it really was made for the movie at paw and has no grownup picture fork . And , thus , we may be able to solve the job .
The Marvel Timeline After Ragnarok
We ’re not just going to pick jam without trying to fulfil them . And so , using all the put forward continuity data that first permit us to build the timeline and mixing in these new developments , here ’s how we see the Marvel Cinematic Universe now :
2010 : Iron Man
2011 : Iron Man 2,The Incredible Hulk , Thor , Captain America : The First Avengerepilogue
2012 : The Avengers , Iron Man 3
2013 : Thor : The Dark World
2014 : Captain America : The Winter Soldier , Guardians of the Galaxy , Guardians of the Galaxy Vol . 2
2015 : Avengers : Age of Ultron , Ant - Man
2016 : Doctor Strange
2017 : Captain America : Civil War , Spider - Man : Homecoming , Thor : Ragnarok
2018 : Black Panther , Avengers : Infinity War
premature timeline readjustment dislodge entire blocks of the MCU and entrust multi - year interruption where nothing of importance fall out to Earth ’s Mightiest Heroes . This new variant keeps a good sense of flow and really only moves two films -Civil WarandHomecoming- and that ’s just by a twelvemonth . It ’s a much more refined solution than shifting every post-2015 movie up by half a ten .
Of course , this Franken - timeline does trivial to speak the previously discussed issues fromHomecoming(we’re still only five twelvemonth on fromThe Avengers),Doctor Strange(which spans age and seems to cut everything else)orCivil War(in which Vision said it was eight years since Tony Stark came out as Iron Man ) , and regardless pushesCap 3ahead on what we ’ve been told by the movie ’s director , but it loosely reserve up to examination . If you bear that retcons are rearing ( and brush aside the " eight years later " telephone line ) , this is the best fit .
However , that ’s not why we think thisThordevelopment explains the timeline problem .
The Real News? Marvel Doesn’t Care
We ’ve focused on the root word fact relay by Winderbaum in regards to the pic canyon . However , there ’s something perhaps more important in that citation - an admittance that the continuity is fluid .
Our initial geographic expedition ofHomecoming ’s time jump concluded that Marvel had evolve past micro - persistence . The intricate weaving of stories that made " Fury ’s Big Week " ( the three pic determine in 2011 all happen at the same time ) is no more due to the franchise simply getting too big for such compulsion to be tributary ; it ’s secure to just state good stories and then slot them in after . That ’s why we ’ve got two Infinity Gauntlets and speak ofGuardians 3breaking persistence .
Now , though , we have proof . Winderbaum say the films are " not as interlocked as they were in Phase One " and his account basically admits only macro placement matters . This chimes with a lot of what we ’ve been hearing about storytelling approach already . Back with the firing ofGuardians of the Galaxy Vol . 2(whose 2014 setting created a plot hole of its own ) , Kevin Feige saidthe MCU would try and deflect overlapping filmsbecause it ’s too complicated . We initially took that to mean a clear timeline , but what it really was is a affirmation that films won’tinterlock .
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It ’d be easy to say that this is a trouble for the MCU , watch them essentially trying to shirk what made the shared universe in the first place so exciting , and to a level that feeling is there . However , their reasoning is still center on delivering the best films . As with Spidey , ifRagnarokis honorable , it wo n’t really matter .
