Avengers: Infinity War
Major spoilers forThor : Ragnarok .
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Thor : Ragnarok ’s mid - credits scene is one of the MCU ’s most mystical stinger . Could that be because , more than just a tease of Thanos , it ’s actually setting up the reveal that the Mad Titan ’s minions inAvengers : eternity Warare more conversant than we realized ?
Marvel has managed to keep the bulk of the storyline for the upcomingInfinity Warfilm for the most part under wraps outside of the most canonic description ( brusque version : Thanos is coming , in case you ’ve been off - world for a few years ) , but at least one matter we do know is that The Avengers will be facing not only The Mad Titan himself ( and , one assumes , some permutation of largely - spendable invasion force ) but also"The Black Order " ; a quartet of brutal exotic superior general operating in his servicing . While adapted ( with some noteworthy change ) from theatrical role introduced in the cartoon strip , The Black Order have reportedly have new descent stories that will exhibit them as more of Thanos ' " adopt children " a la Nebula and Gamora fromGuardians of The Galaxy .
The four fictitious character are , thus far , in the main distinguish by their design , arms and powers : Corvus Glaive ( spear weapon ) , Proxima Midnight ( distaff warrior ) , Ebony Maw ( sorcerer - esque telepath ) and Cull Obsidian ( a heavyweight . ) It ’s believed that they will be realise through apparent motion - seizure FX , but apart from longstanding rumors that mocap specialistTerry Notary(thePlanet of The Apesmovies ) will be portraying at least one of them much is still nameless . Will moment - cap actors also be voice the character ? Will they get proper backstories of their own ? If so , what will they be - and will the increasingly tight - pace " everyone already knowsthis " feeler to storytelling that ’s characterized the last several Marvel features earmark for four whole new " crucial " characters to be introduced in an already packed feature of speech ?
One possibility : what if the fry of Thanos are actually figures we ’ve already gotten to know well - just not under these name calling ? deform good guys ( or their ally ) into enemy minions with Modern " evil " frame is a tried and true filthy trick for big - time supervillains of the case Thanos is usually presented as ; and it also make for economical storytelling in term of getting hearing invested and add openhanded wager to the proceedings . And in this particular typesetter’s case , it would be an even greater complication which will already see Thanos ' fire hitting at a present moment where The Avengers are disbanded and at betting odds along with who cognise what frictions will arise from the Guardians of The Galaxy , Doctor Strange andBlack Panthergetting involved as well .
Thor: Ragnarok’s Mid-Credits Scene Links To Thanos
If the Children of Thanos are going to commence out as other characters we already know , the first interrogative becomes " who ? " followed by " under what circumstances ? " Do these characters remind us of anyone particularly familiar and , if so , would it make horse sense for them to have gotten swept up into such a position ? In this case , it ’s possible that the answer ( or the come of them ) might be expect in the fairly surprising final scenes of the late Marvel feature;Thor : Ragnarok .
Ragnarok , of grade , consult to the End of The World for the old Norse Supreme Being ; and the thirdThorfilm make unspoiled on the source . As the film end , Asgard has indeed been destroyed - although things are n’t quite as unappeasable as they might vocalise : Thor realise that his fate is not to prevent but rather to facilitate the devastation of ( his ) world by the prophecized demonic entity Surtur to gazump the far more dangerous villainHelaof her power source ; with he and Loki ( along with The Hulk , Heimdall and newfound allies Korg and Valkyrie ) in command of a massive starship convey the surviving population of Asgardians in a cosmic search for a unexampled home . A well-chosen than gestate end , considering the title … at least until the first of two the post - credit scenes , in which an even more massive spacecraft rises into panorama above them . Uh - oh .
That mid - credits vista , of course , cut off before we get hold out who is in charge of that ship - though it feels safe to assume that it likely has something to do with Thanos . fan who got to see ( or at least read about ) themuch - hypedInfinity Warearly trailerat SDCC , to boot , will probably generalize that whatever goes down between that ship and the Asgardians ' does n’t end well for The Mighty Thor ; that footage opened with the God of Thunder hurtle unprotected through forbidden place before flap down into the windscreen of the Guardians of The Galaxy ’s spaceship , The Milano . What position him in that land will , presumably , be divulge inInfinity War;though it could be connected to The Tesseract , which carry one of the all - important Infinity Stones and which Ragnarok take multiple opportunities to remind us has been on Asgard since the conclusion ofThe Avengers(and whichLoki is seen eyeing during the evacuation ) .
What Happened To The Rest of the Asgardians?
Bottom business line : concord to the trailer footage ofInfinity War , Thor will be divide from his citizenry and his allies by some unknown context . So what happen to everyone else on the ship ? usurp for the sake of argument that the Asgardians were aggress by Thanos , credibly nothing good - attack ( perchance eve destroying ? ) an entire civilization ’s Charles Frederick Worth of sinless refugees would certainly be the sort of " grown malign " bad guy rope move that would set the stage for with child Marvel good - versus - evil confrontation ever .
Then again , mass - genocide might be too dreary of a plot point for the family - favorable Marvel Cinematic Universe , so perhaps he ’d make them prisoners - or slave : Asgardians are pretty sturdy , even the " average " one have superhuman ( by Earth standards ) lastingness and inhabit for K of years . Those are conceivably attractive qualities if you ’re looking for force - laborers … or mayhap even conscripted soldiers . And then there are Thor ’s main allies : Heimdall and Loki are both " deity " in the same way Thor is , Valkyrie is a warrior of comparable skill to Thor himself and The Hulk is undestroyable .
Put those component and the " big unknown " of where the plain authoritative and formidable Black Order are going to come from and an intriguing hypothesis get down to come out : if these four warriors are going to be " Children of Thanos " and the previous such " children " that we ’ve forgather ( Nebula and Gamora ) were both augment and physically transformed by him as part of that being , could they have come from among the passengers / work party of the Asgardian ship ? More specifically , is the grounds we do n’t know more about these characters than their names that Glaive , Proxima , Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian are really Heimdall , Valkyrie , Loki and The Hulk " gone evil " and transformed ?
Do The Revengers Become The Black Order?
An out - there hypothesis , to be sure - especially since character being transformed into a wholly unrecognisable configuration , while a vulgar trope of comic strip , has n’t see much action in the Marvel Cinematic Universe . Then again , they may not actually be all that unrecognisable comeInfinity Waritself : Marvel like to apply antic edits and imitation - outs to keep spoilery details out of trailers , poster and even product ( Thor receives a clean substantial blemish injury at a fundamental point in Ragnarok , but evidence of that was scrubbed from the film ’s trailers and theInfinity Warfootage shown so far ;) so it would n’t be unprecedented for the picture we ’ve seen of The Black Order so far to have altered to preserve their identities for the fourth dimension being .
However , irrespective of what their faces end up wait like , in term of physical stature and all-encompassing " type " the two sets of four actually line up eerily well : Corvus Glaive is a well - built weapon - superior , much the same as Heimdall . Proxima Midnight is a smaller - compose but hefty cleaning woman , similar to Valkyrie . Ebony Maw is a fragile , gangling guy who prefers deception and " magic " trickery to combat ; just like Loki - in fact , his outfit even looks like one of Loki ’s ( and Proxima ’s armor is like in convention to Valkyrie ’s , too . ) Most eyebrow - raising , however , is Cull Obsidian ; a new character create for the film but " inspired by " Black Dwarf from the comics and different from him in at least one fundamental regard : He ’s a caboodle big … in fact , he ’s the same height and build as The Incredible Hulk .
So , then , is that it ? Will The Avengers have to battle one of their own , a former opposition and two Thor - degree powerhouses before they get to Thanos ( together or individually - in the comic plot line that introduced them , the Black Order separated their forces to take on multiple mathematical group of heroes at once ) ? It certainly prepare signified from a account view in terms of inter - character tension , and it would make thing substantially more dangerous considering most of the MCU heroes are of human - stage strength and this would make all four of Thanos ' " children " a forcible friction match for most of them : even Loki held out against Captain America in hand - to - hand combat , and Cap is literally the unassailable an otherwise normal human being can be .
On the other hand … this is all just a guess , based on anecdotal grounds and free-base around asking a enquiry that might not want to be ask : it ’s alone potential ( and almost surely more potential ) that these characters have n’t had much revealed about them because there is n’t going to be much to unwrap - that they ’re just four more big strong unfit guys for The Avengers to fight and for Marvel to make natural action figures out of .
Whatever the face , Thor ’s front in theInfinity Warearly footage - when combined with what we now know about howRagnarokwraps up - leave the fate of four major Marvel " super " case very much in question . So when four " new " characters with distractingly - similar group - silhouettes , theories like this are get going to flex up .